Italian Serie A 2012-2013

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what a joke serie A became!

100% agreement. I only get Italian language coverage of Serie A. When I turned it on today the Italian commentator was saying "Super Mario". Over the first 20 minutes of the match he said "Super Mario" at least five times. Since I don't understand Italian I don't know what else he was saying. When Balotelli scored the first goal the commentator almost had an orgasm screaming "Super Mario". I turned it off at half time and watched tennis instead. I'm disgusted with Italy. I thought the Italians were better than us black-worshipping Anglo-Saxons. I thought they had more pride in who they are. So much for "right wing" Berlusconi who joined the fans cheering wildly for the Rossoneri. Indeed the name 'Rossoneri' was never more appropriate than today. AC Milan is now mostly 'nero' with traitorous 'rosso' fans.
 

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100% agreement. I only get Italian language coverage of Serie A. When I turned it on today the Italian commentator was saying "Super Mario". Over the first 20 minutes of the match he said "Super Mario" at least five times. Since I don't understand Italian I don't know what else he was saying. When Balotelli scored the first goal the commentator almost had an orgasm screaming "Super Mario". I turned it off at half time and watched tennis instead. I'm disgusted with Italy. I thought the Italians were better than us black-worshipping Anglo-Saxons. I thought they had more pride in who they are. So much for "right wing" Berlusconi who joined the fans cheering wildly for the Rossoneri. Indeed the name 'Rossoneri' was never more appropriate than today. AC Milan is now mostly 'nero' with traitorous 'rosso' fans.

I was looking at some old AC Milan rosters and in 1985 they an all Italian team except 2 Englishman. How pleasant not seeing any Brazilian flags.

It looks like countries took advantage of the Bosman Ruling and started to let many non-EU players to come in for some reason and now it is way out of hand.

AC Milan had two blacks in Gullit and Rijkaard in the early 90's along with Van Basten .



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I was looking at some old AC Milan rosters and in 1985 they an all Italian team except 2 Englishman. How pleasant not seeing any Brazilian flags.

It looks like countries took advantage of the Bosman Ruling and started to let many non-EU players to come in for some reason and now it is way out of hand.

AC Milan had two blacks in Gullit and Rijkaard in the early 90's along with Van Basten .



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a swede from the 50's is still the club's top scorer in serie A, he was part of the gre-no-li trio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gre-No-Li

serie A used to be the best league in the world in the 90's
 

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We Barcelona now:

Il nostro tridente assomiglia all'attacco del Barcellona: loro hanno Messi, noi Balotelli. El Shaarawy è fantastico".
found here

In typically understated Italian fashion, Milan’s president, Adriano Galliani, who orchestrated Balotelli’s transfer last week — whatever was behind it — said it was “fate†that the striker scored in his first match for the club. He even compared him with Lionel Messi, Barcelona’s four-time world player of the year. “We don’t have Messi but we have Balotelli,†Galliani added. “This attack reminds me of Barcelona and we will see the benefit in terms of sponsors because he is only 22 and he has great potential.â€
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yes, OK, balotelli is messi and pogba is pirlo :icon_rolleyes:
and having black clowns from ligue 1 and from all over the world makes me exactly think of barcelona with their homegrown players :icon_rolleyes:
i'll be rooting for celtic glasgow against juventus and barcelona against ac milan

regarding the AC milan jersey, you have to look closely but there is green everywhere on the jersey and the training kits:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/31/article-2270816-17452C29000005DC-119_634x878.jpg

there is green on the right shoulder, and red on the left shoulder, so it looks like the italian flag
and there are small italian flags between each red and black stripe, you can see them if you look closely
the colors of the club are red and black, there should be no green
but i guess that they try to appeal to a larger audience, like juventus
 

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regarding the AC milan jersey, you have to look closely but there is green everywhere on the jersey and the training kits:
there is green on the right shoulder, and red on the left shoulder, so it looks like the italian flag
and there are small italian flags between each red and black stripe, you can see them if you look closely
the colors of the club are red and black, there should be no green
but i guess that they try to appeal to a larger audience, like juventus
To be fair, most jerseys today are rather ugly, with many teams only getting a boring standard jersey template.Or they use colors that have no tradition or connection with the club, like Milans jersey or the Inter away jersey. And even if they manage it to design a decent looking jersey, it is then often quickly ruined by those stupid add stickers.
>Dat feel when Mario Balotelli has girlier ear jewellery than my girlfriend
 

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Francesco Totti's fantastic goal in a AS Roma victory over Juventus today (1:0):

[video=youtube;V3pcP_VoE84]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3pcP_VoE84[/video]

Juventus fielded Pogba from the first minute because they were missing Marchisio. The black Asamoah also played but was replaced by the Italian Giovinco. Nicolas Anelka also played the last 10 minutes, but without any effect. Juve looked a bit tired from their CL match, although some players did good (the Swiss Lichsteiner is playing really good, and today a good performance by the Uruguayan Martín Cáceres.
Roma played with an mostly white team, with the exception of the other (mulatto) Brazilian Marquinhos. This is Totti's 224th goal for the only team he ever played. He's now 37 years old, but still going strong... Great performance by him and the White Brazilian Marquinho and the Dutch goalkeeper Stekelengurg.
If Napoli wins tomorrow against Sampdoria, they will reduce the distance between them and Juventus to only 2 points (with Juventus having to play in Napoles on March 1st).
 
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we have been talking about the goals scored in the spanish league, if it was easier to score in the spanish league than in the english league:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...ier-to-score-in-Spain-than-England-or-Germany

i can tell you that a goal in the premiere league currently = 18 goals in serie A :icon_cool:
i used balotelli as a standard
balotelli scored 1 goal in 14 matches of premiere league = 0.07 goals per match
in serie so far it's 4 goals in 3 matches = 1.33 goals per match

1.33/0.07= 18.5 so a goal in premiere league = 18.5 goals in serie A

just kidding but it shows that serie A is no longer the league it used to be (and 2 goals out of balotelli's 4 goals were penalty kicks)
 

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we have been talking about the goals scored in the spanish league, if it was easier to score in the spanish league than in the english league:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...ier-to-score-in-Spain-than-England-or-Germany

i can tell you that a goal in the premiere league currently = 18 goals in serie A :icon_cool:
i used balotelli as a standard
balotelli scored 1 goal in 14 matches of premiere league = 0.07 goals per match
in serie so far it's 4 goals in 3 matches = 1.33 goals per match

1.33/0.07= 18.5 so a goal in premiere league = 18.5 goals in serie A

just kidding but it shows that serie A is no longer the league it used to be (and 2 goals out of balotelli's 4 goals were penalty kicks)

AC Milan is looking hideous now.
 

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Juve had a quality squad last season that deservedly won the league title, but that has all changed with the unnecessary, unhelpful transfers of Asamoah, Pogba, Anelka, and a random Nigerian teenager called "Richmond Boakye". The main reason why these mediocre players were acquired is economics rather than quality: they cost a combined 10 million euros in transfer fees. By far the biggest weakness with Juve is its strike force, which should have been repaired much sooner with a world-class talent like Suarez or Falcao, although Llorente will arrive next season. Instead of signing the mediocre blacks named here, Juve should have gone for mediocre Italians. In the last couple of seasons, Serie A sides have been very stingy with their transfer policies, which is why Senegalese teenagers find themselves in Milan's first team.

Naples should be our favorite to win the scudetto. Other than the Colombian Zuniga, they don't have any black players.
 
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Juve had a quality squad last season that deservedly won the league title, but that has all changed with the unnecessary, unhelpful transfers of Asamoah, Pogba, Anelka, and a random Nigerian teenager called "Richmond Boakye". The main reason why these mediocre players were acquired is economics rather than quality: they cost a combined 10 million euros in transfer fees. By far the biggest weakness with Juve is its strike force, which should have been repaired much sooner with a world-class talent like Suarez or Falcao, although Llorente will arrive next season. Instead of signing the mediocre blacks named here, Juve should have gone for mediocre Italians. In the last couple of seasons, Serie A sides have been very stingy with their transfer policies, which is why Senegalese teenagers find themselves in Milan's first team.

Naples should be our favorite to win the scudetto. Other than the Colombian Zuniga, they don't have any black players.


pogba is more than a useless black player, he's a balotelli for me, so if napoli could win the serie A i wouldn't mind at all
 

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Catania - Inter 2:3 after Catania was leading 2:0. The interesting thing is that all 5 goals were caused by "really bad" black defenders. The curse of the black central defender strikes again.
The first two Catania goals were caused by Inter's Brazilian defender Juan Jesus. First he loses the ball in a dumb tackle inside the penalty area, then he "forgots" to cover his man during a set piece. Inter's goals were caused by the Black Uruguayan Alexis Rolin. First he is taken for a ride by Rodrigo Palacio, then he fails to jump during a dangerous cross, lastly you can see him comically milling around while the Inter players are passing the ball to each other about 5 meters from the goal line. Here's the video:
[video=youtube;xP_rMlF25IE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP_rMlF25IE[/video]

Napoli failed to win against Juventus which now looks pretty confident to win the scudetto, while the 3 last teams - Siena, Pescara and Palermo fell 5 points behind Genova and are almost certain to be relegated, barring some last moment "miracle". The only uncertainty looks like the fight for the 3rd place (which leads to PL qualifications). AC Milan (without Balotelli who is injured) won over a 10 men Lazio, so now there are 4 candidates for this place - Milan, Inter, Lazio and Fiorentina. Napoli sits pretty confidently in 2. place which guarantees a place in PL.



Juventus
27
18
5
4
35
59
Napoli
27
15
8
4
25
53
Milan
27
14
6
7
16
48
Inter
27
14
5
8
8
47
Lazio
27
14
5
8
5
47
Fiorentina
27
13
6
8
15
45
AS Roma
27
13
4
10
5
43
Catania
27
12
6
9
2
42
Udinese
27
10
10
7
2
40
Sampdoria
27
10
6
11
4
35
Bologna
27
9
5
13
2
32
Torino
27
7
12
8
32
Parma
27
8
8
11
-4
32
Cagliari
27
8
7
12
-15
31
Atalanta
27
9
5
13
-12
30
Chievo
27
8
5
14
-17
29
Genoa
27
6
8
13
-13
26
Siena
27
7
6
14
-12
21
Palermo
27
3
12
12
-17
21
US Pescara
27
6
3
18
-34
21
 

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Judging by the lack of posts most of you, like me, gave up on Serie A many months ago. It's back in the news due to - you guessed it - racist chants aimed at Balotelli. Sept Blatter is promising "action, not just words" in response. So get ready for more anti-racist billboards, game stoppages, and even worse to come.
 

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Judging by the lack of posts most of you, like me, gave up on Serie A many months ago. It's back in the news due to - you guessed it - racist chants aimed at Balotelli. Sept Blatter is promising "action, not just words" in response. So get ready for more anti-racist billboards, game stoppages, and even worse to come.

porthos has perfectly summed up serie A in his fist post so there's not much to add:


Poor Serie A. From a once dominant European competition in the 80s and 90s, it is now in precipitous decline and was recently overtaken by Bundesliga in UEFA rankings... There are many issues here, from (yet another) betting scandal (Juventus coach Antonio Conte was banned from attending games for 10 months, many players disqualified, Lecce relegated to third division) to crumbling infrastructure and stadia, from departing star-players to extreme financial hardship for many teams. Juventus seems to be by far the dominant power, Inter and AC Milan are definitely weaker this year, their owners trying to reign in spending drammatically. Possible surprises Napoli, Roma.

:icon_neutral:

i even prefer following the french league now than serie A, i would have never guessed
 

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It's all over, well - almost. Everything went according to plan. Juventus - champions, Napoli - second and Champions League, Milan third, CL Qualifications, Fiorentina & Udinese - Europa LeaguePalermo, Siena and Pescara to serie B. Inter had a disastrous season and did not qualify even for the Europa League.
The good news is that Hellas Verona, after 11 years in lower divisions (including 5 years in 3rd division from where it almost got relegated to the 4th division) got promoted from serie B. One of the most racially aware and right-wing fan base in Italy finally is back in Serie A. Let's hope they will stay there. They will now play the Verona city derby against their "politically correct" city rivals - Chievo, which are an artificial club with few supporters. It's going to be the fifth city derby in Italy after Turin (Juventus - Torino), Milan (Milan - Inter), Rome (Roma - Lazio), Genova (Genoa - Sampdoria). Go Hellas!
Here's their party:
[video=youtube;IFT02BLaCS4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=IFT02BLaCS4&NR=1[/video]

The other team that got promoted was Sassuolo, a team from a city of only 40 thousand, known for their ceramic tile industry. It's their first time in Serie A. They used to be coached by Massimiliano Allegri, AC Milan's (now former) coach. The last promotion from Serie A to Serie B will be decided by a playoff between 4 teams - Livorno, Empoli, Novara and Brescia this and next week. Another game that has to be played will be Roma-Lazio, the cup final which will be played in 5 days.
The bad news is that Balottelli returned to Italy and is now used as a poster boy for multiculturalism.
The transfer market was more interested for coaches than for players (few big names are moving to Serie A these days). Milan, Inter, Napoli and Roma probably will have new coaches next year. Regarding players, there is talk about Higuain leaving Real for Juventus, Cavani leaving Napoli for Real or ManCity, while Edin Dzeko leaving City for Napoli. We'll see... what is sure is that Italian clubs can't afford to spend a lot of money on players as they used to 10 or 15 years ago, which may end up being a good thing.


Final table:

CLUB
P
W
D
L
GD
PTS
Juventus
38
27
6
5
46
87
Napoli
38
23
9
6
37
78
Milan
38
21
9
8
28
72
Fiorentina
38
21
7
10
28
70
Udinese
38
18
12
8
14
66
AS Roma
38
18
8
12
15
62
Lazio
38
18
7
13
9
61
Catania
38
15
11
12
4
56
Inter
38
16
6
16
-2
54
Parma
38
13
10
15
-1
49
Cagliari
38
12
11
15
-12
47
Chievo
38
12
9
17
-15
45
Bologna
38
11
11
16
-6
44
Sampdoria
38
11
10
17
-8
42
Atalanta
38
11
9
18
-17
40
Torino
38
8
16
14
-9
39
Genoa
38
8
14
16
-14
38
Palermo
38
6
14
18
-20
32
Siena
38
9
9
20
-21
30
US Pescara
38
6
4
28
-57
22
 

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The bad news is that Balottelli returned to Italy and is now used as a poster boy for multiculturalism.

50% of his goals were penalties
ac milan qualified for champions league thanks to a very generous penalty in the last 10 minutes of the last match
firentina should have qualified instead

here is a ranking withhout the refereeing mistakes:

CLASSIFICA VIRTUALE (Squadra - Punti virtuali - Punti reali - Saldo):
Juventus 85 87 (+2)
Napoli 71 78 (+7)
Fiorentina 71 70 (-1)
Roma 66 62 (-4)
Udinese 60 66 (+6)
Milan 58 72 (+14)
Catania 55 56 (+1)
Inter 55 54 (-1)
Lazio 54 61 (+7)
Parma 52 49 (-3)
Cagliari 46 47 (+1)
Bologna 46 44 (-2)
Torino 44 39 (-5)
Atalanta 42 40 (-2)
Genoa 39 38 (-1)
Chievo 36 45 (+9)
Sampdoria 35 42 (+7)
Palermo 35 32 (-3)
Siena 33 30 (-3)
Pescara 25 22 (-3).

http://www.calciomercato.com/altre-...sifica-virtuale-senza-errori-arbitrali-181340

ac milan is the team that benefitted the most from refereeing mistakes
they won 14 points because of it, and they should have finished 6th without those refereeing mistakes according to this chart
 

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Article about right wing hooliganism and "racism" in Italy. The title of the article is horrible but there is actually alot of good information and interviews in the piece. I have a stronger appreciation for Italians and their desire to retain their history and culture after reading this. Probably not the desired effect by the author. :grin:

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/9338962/when-beautiful-game-turns-ugly
 

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[video=youtube_share;aG0RIpkEuDY]http://youtu.be/aG0RIpkEuDY[/video]


Kevin Constant, Guinean-born French player of AC Milan, left the field during a friendly against the team contesting for racist chanting Sassuolo.

meanwhile, in france (paris area):


While they were trying to rescue victims of the Paris-Limoges derailment, in which six persons lost their lives, the emergency teams had to face a volley of stones from a small group of thugs and scavengers, who had come to rob the dead and wounded of whatever they could carry. Nathalie Michel, of the Alliance police union describes the scene:
"At 17:30 , when the police arrived, they saw a group of young persons approaching who seemed to be helping the victims. Very quickly, they realized that these individuals were there to strip the victims, notably the first corpses."
The police decided to chase them, but the thugs had no intention of getting caught. They shot back at the police with stones, and at the firemen on the scene. To get rid of them, the emergency personnel were forced to call in for reinforcements.

anti-white insults have been heard on many occasions at the scene: http://youtu.be/XnNVUutUHg4

(not to mention the riots in trappes - paris area too - this week)
 
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