Who’s White & "Ranking" Whites?

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I've read various opinions and studies on what consists of racial makeup...in specifically to the White race. I was curious to what the general consensus was here as to who qualifies as "White"?

For example, do various Mediterranean peoples...North Africans (Berbers), Turks, Greeks (Southern Greece), Syrians? What about Jews & mestizos?

In addition, do you think there is a "ranking" of White races? I read a comment on Stormfront once, that ranked the Whites (something to the effect) of...

- Aryans (Nordic, Germanic & Anglo Saxon/Northern European & also the Boer & English peoples of South Africa).
- Western Europeans - French, "White" Spanish & Portugese", etc.
- Eastern Europeans - Slavs, Poles, Russians, etc.
- Southern Europeans - Southern Spain, Southern Italian, Greek, etc.
- "Mixed" White - Mestizo, Berbers, etc.

I was curious as CF'rs thoughts on who's considered "White" and if their are a ranking of "Whites"? Thanks!
 

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If you look white, act white and fight white, then you're white.

or... Any person of mainly European linage that also practices European customs, identifies with European culture and practices a European religion.
 

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That comment on Stormfront is probably from a reader of "March of the Titans." "March of the Titans" was from "The Passing of the Great Race," by Madison Grant, who did everything he could to ban immigration of Southern and Eastern Europeans to America. He begrudgingly accepted Irish Americans due to their numbers and service to the Union during the war.

The irony is that Grant and especially his protege Lothrop Stoddard were the precursors to today's radical left wing. "Going green," corporate welfare, Left-wing Darwinism, and affirmative action were right up Grant's alley. Within two generations, the progeny of Grant's followers became nothing more than a bunch of aloof homosexuals.
 

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C Darwin said:
If you look white, act white and fight white, then you're white.

or... Any person of mainly European linage that also practices European customs, identifies with European culture and practices a European religion.


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There's always going to be a gray area where reasonable people can disagree on where the exact line is between White and non-White, but how a person regards himself and how he conducts himself should be respected as the deciding factor in those cases.
 

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Some of the details might be a little off but,

If you've ever received a DUI or a speeding ticket or something like that and have had the media cover it like the OJ trial, a la Jared Allen, you're white.

If you've ever been a Doak Walker award winner and run a 4.4 but wound up doing "grunt work in a mall" according to J.B. Cash a la Luke Staley, you're white.

If you've ever fumbled once in a couple preseason games and then earned a reputation for fumbling like Travis Jervey, you're white.

If you've ever been a quarterback with blazing speed accused, for no observable reason, of "happy feet," you're white.

If you don't have a heritage month from the Communist establishment you're white, or at least a white man.

If you're the fourth fastest player in the NFL, but a career punter like Brian Moorman, you're white.

If you've won 3 Super Bowls but are on the team due to intangible qualities to make up for a "lack of athleticism," and intelligence is not one of the mentioned qualities, you're white.

That's a short list.Edited by: Freedom
 

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Don Wassall said:
C Darwin said:
If you look white, act white and fight white, then you're white. or... Any person of mainly European linage that also practices European customs, identifies with European culture and practices a European religion.


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  There's always going to be a gray area where reasonable people can disagree on where the exact line is between White and non-White, but how a person regards himself and how he conducts himself should be respected as the deciding factor in those cases.
AGREE with you there, DW!!!!

If a person appears white physically, acts white, has white ideas, and embraces the white cultural way 100%, then that person's white. I'd personally welcome anyone of any race who has a strong regard and respect for the white race and culture. The white race deserves pride and respect from everyone.
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Any non black that agrees that blacks, wet backs, and zionist Jews are Americas downfall.

Don't forget "mudsharks" (male & female) in the race traitor equation!

We've recently moved further up in NW GA, and every time I go into the (closest) Walmart I see a damned Mudshark &/or other mixed couple (usually with their mongrel kid). I just shake my head & think to myself...what a disgrace to that girl's/guy's (White) parents & Grandparents...they must be soooo proud. If the mixed couple doesn't include a White, I really don't care.

If I didn't have a respectable job/career & married with 4 kids, I'd probably be confrontational when I saw these untermenschen. However, I try to conduct myself as a gentlemen in public, work, etc., unless someone crosses me or is totally outta line. However, it's so sickening to see the obliviot, brainwashed Whites betraying their race.
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Complicated issue. I'm about as Northern European (ancestry--haven't been there) as an American can come, but the majority of people descended from Southern Europeans, that I've met, seemed ok to me. The Russians I've met (only about three or four of them) and the Ukrainians (two) were all awesome. I wouldn't mind some more of them being around, if they had a reason to want to come. I have a feeling this country is becoming less attractive to Europeans.
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I think ranking the few whites that actually do have racial awareness is a divisive factor that undermines the cause. I'm a mixture of Aryan, Southern, and Eastern European and all those cultures have -at one time -peaked, from the Ancient Greeks & Romans to the rise of the British Empire and her colony America. We should appreciateour differences, not rank them by caste. Edited by: Alpha Male
 

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Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I'm American for several generations back (to the 1700s on my Mom's side), but my bloodlines are Anglo-Saxon/English & Welsh (on my Dad's side) & Scot-Irish on my Mom's side, but I agree with the general sentiment that we should stand together as Whites. Also, good take on looking, acting/behaving, fighting White being a solid criteria.
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DixieDestroyer said:
Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I'm American for several generations back (to the 1700s on my Mom's side), but my bloodlines are Anglo-Saxon/English & Welsh (on my Dad's side) & Scot-Irish on my Mom's side, but I agree with the general sentiment that we should stand together as Whites. Also, good take on looking, acting/behaving, fighting White being a solid criteria.
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Not sure where I "Rank" as far as being white. LOL. It seems sometimes that people rank blonde hair & blue eyes as the "Most" white.

I did my family tree a few years back & found that my bloodlines are Irish, Scottish, Welch, English, German, Austrian, Netherlands, & French. Although I'm always asked if I'm Italian, Guess I look Italian, I have dark brown hair, olive skin, & brown/Green eyes with a slight blue tint on edges.

My head is shaved, goatee, tattoos, I listen to Country music mainly, only date white women & only have white friends & have no problem telling anyone, anywhere, anytime that I'm a Redneck & am proud of it! Hope I'm white enough.
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Doc Holliday said:
Not sure where I "Rank" as far as being white. LOL. It seems sometimes that people rank blonde hair & blue eyes as the "Most" white.

I did my family tree a few years back & found that my bloodlines are Irish, Scottish, Welch, English, German, Austrian, Netherlands, & French. Although I'm always asked if I'm Italian, Guess I look Italian, I have dark brown hair, olive skin, & brown/Green eyes with a slight blue tint on edges.

My head is shaved, goatee, tattoos, I listen to Country music mainly, only date white women & only have white friends & have no problem telling anyone, anywhere, anytime that I'm a Redneck & am proud of it! Hope I'm white enough.
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I think the reason some see whites with blond hair with blue eyes as the most white is becuase it is so the opposite of a mongoloid or a *******.But of course with blond blue eyes you aren't more white then a black haired white.
 

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Freedom said:
Some of the details might be a little off but,

If you've ever received a DUI or a speeding ticket or something like that and have had the media cover it like the OJ trial, a la Jared Allen, you're white.

If you've ever been a Doak Walker award winner and run a 4.4 but wound up doing "grunt work in a mall" according to J.B. Cash a la Luke Staley, you're white.

If you've ever fumbled once in a couple preseason games and then earned a reputation for fumbling like Travis Jervey, you're white.

If you've ever been a quarterback with blazing speed accused, for no observable reason, of "happy feet," you're white.

If you don't have a heritage month from the Communist establishment you're white, or at least a white man.

If you're the fourth fastest player in the NFL, but a career punter like Brian Moorman, you're white.

If you've won 3 Super Bowls but are on the team due to intangible qualities to make up for a "lack of athleticism," and intelligence is not one of the mentioned qualities, you're white.

That's a short list.


Good stuff Freedom
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As I was reading your post, I was reminded of the Jeff Foxworthy skit "you might be a redneck". If you just end each of those statements with a "you might be white" ending, then you got a good comedy act going. Of course, everything you wrote was true and not really funny at all to those white athletes the caste system screws and stereotypes everyday.
 

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Alpha Male said:
<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">I think ranking the few whites that actually do have racial awareness is a divisive factor that undermines the cause.  I'm a mixture of Aryan, Southern, and Eastern European and all those cultures have -at one time - peaked,  from the Ancient Greeks & Romans to the rise of the British Empire and her colony America.  We should appreciate our differences, not rank them by caste.  </SPAN>

I agree with this.
 

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Are Melungeons considered white? I know in the past some were considered white, while others were considered black or aboriginal.
 

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I haven't read about the Melungeons much, though from what I have, it seems to either be, or have been transformed into, some sort of meme with the purpose of confusing white guys. Everything I ever read about them, in every article about them or description of them, states their ancestry as containing a good bit of West African black, then says that Heather Locklear is a Melungeon.

I don't know what they're thinking, but Locklear does not, no how, no way have a high percentage of black blood. No way.Edited by: DWFan
 
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During most of the 19th and first half of the 20th centuries in America the English, German, French and Dutch were considered absolutely white. However, many (maybe most) considered Irish, Italian, Greek, Spanish, Jewish, Finnish, Slavic and other E. Europeans not completely white. Many factories, for instance, refused to give those groups skilled work or management jobs because they were considered inferior. Ironically, blacks were sometimes given good jobs over those white groups because a stereotype existed that blacks were good carpenters and mechanics. However, that was the exception to the rule. Usually blacks and Hispanics were at the bottom. Even today I think many people consider those groups mentally inferior or naturally more violent, especially the Italians, Greeks and Spanish; I've heard multiple comments like, "they're just crazy," or "dumb Italians," in my lifetime.

I don't think there are any natural differences between those groups. The Italians created Rome and were largely responsible for the Renaissance. The Greeks developed some of the most advanced math, science, medicine, philosophy and architecture in the world. The Spanish were a dominant world power in the 1500s. Russia was the 2nd greatest power behind the U.S. for maybe 40 years. Jews are actually stereotyped as more intelligent than most groups now, compared to just 100 years ago when they were considered one of the dumbest groups.   ;

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Basically I agree with DD's list, and would only add that a large number of theIranians are white.


the word Iranian comes from "Aryan." Also some of the Indian peoples (of India, not Amerinds) are white, probably Aryan.


According to the Bible. Noah had three Sons, Shem, Japeth, and Ham. Shem is the father of (very broadly speaking) the Oriental peoples (including the Semitic peoples), Japeth of the "Europeans "(whites mostly), and Ham of the "African" peoples.


The Historian Josephus has an interesting account of the dispersion of the tribes after the tower of babel incident.


According to some Lincoln had a large dose of Melungeon blood.
 

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I have read that Lincoln's birth mother was speculated to be Melungeon. She looked quite swarthy in the one painting I have seen of her. Obviously no real photos exist. I have also read that the "King"(Elvis Presley) was rumoured to be Melungeon. I know his family have acknowledged aboriginal ancestry. It's funny all of the people that I have seen acknowledged that ancestry from the south have all looked white and virtually 100 percent white. Ie Locklear or Ava Gardner. Richie Mullins the country musician did seem like the look that you would stereotype as Melungeon as he was quite tanned and looked partially aboriginal and maybe part black. Edited by: white is right
 

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I have read that Lincoln's birth mother was speculated to be Melungeon. She looked quite swarthy in the one painting I have seen of her. Obviously no real photos exist. I have also read that the "King"(Elvis Presley) was rumoured to be Melungeon. I know his family have acknowledged aboriginal ancestry. It's funny all of the people that I have seen acknowledged that ancestry from the south have all looked white and virtually 100 percent white. Ie Locklear or Ava Gardner. Richie Mullins the country musician did seem like the look that you would stereotype as Melungeon as he was quite tanned and looked partially aboriginal and maybe part black. Edited by: white is right
It looks like the old stories spun by old ancestors are true about Melungeons, similar to Jews and their origins in Europe, DNA tests have revealed what Whites from the south and some northern areas suspected for 200 years.....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/melungeon-dna-study-origin_n_1544489.html
 
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It looks like the old stories spun by old ancestors are true about Melungeons, similar to Jews and their origins in Europe, DNA tests have revealed what Whites from the south and some northern areas suspected for 200 years.....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/melungeon-dna-study-origin_n_1544489.html

They don't really have the characteristics of sub-saharan people. No kinky hair, the facial and skull structure. I have no idea about their crime rate, but I have never heard of one of them playing corner in the NFL. That last fact casts doubt on their African heritage.
 

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They don't really have the characteristics of sub-saharan people. No kinky hair, the facial and skull structure. I have no idea about their crime rate, but I have never heard of one of them playing corner in the NFL. That last fact casts doubt on their African heritage.
Sean Locklear who looks mulatto is a Lumbee and is a Melungeon eventhough he is "Native American" from I read of his "tribe", most of the people are 2/5ths European, 2/5ths African and 1/5 (or less) Native American. Here is his profile.....http://www.nfl.com/player/seanlocklear/2506044/profile
 

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black ancestry could be present in each one of you without knowing it! the "one drop" rule is worthless and you can have a northern european blond blue eyed person with a distant black ancestor! black is not resistant and easily fades away with time - very distant Melungeon ancestry is irrelevant. something like 1 to 5% non white DNA doesn't affect the phenotype.
in some cases even 25% of black DNA doesn't make it through the phenotype, what about 2 or 3?

look at this kid:

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I'm sure you'll call him white if you come across him!

in fact he's the son of Yannick Noah and Nordic mother (in the pic), Yannick Noah himself is "half blooded", from a white french mother, so this kid has 25% black blood, but still phenotypically looks white.

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