white goal scorers 2011-2012

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an article that shows the dominance of the white goal scorers:
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/european-hat-trick-heroes
There is a different goal race going on in Europe – the most hat-tricks race

out of the 5 players mentionned, 5 whites
i'm sure they would have liked to add a black striker to the list, like they usually do in these kind of "top 5" or "top 10" but since the list is based on facts, goals...
Lionel Messi, Barcelona
As we have just been discussing, the mini-magician has been chipping, lobbing and rounding his way to a probable end of season total in the region of gazillion goals. In this time he has managed to bag EIGHT hat-tricks!
That’s correct, and he only seems to be warming up for an end of season flurry of net busting goal gluttony. If he gets to double figures in hat-tricks it will be quite an achievement, though seems entirely possible.
Cristiano Ronaldo, Real Madrid
Following closely behind is obviously Messi’s stiff-necked nemesis CR7, with socks pulled up accordingly. The Portuguese flyer is breathing down the Barca man’s neck, which is actually quite difficult considering the height difference, by bagging 43 strikes so far.
The margin between them in hat-tricks is of a similar proportion as Real’s goal-hunk has racked up SIX of them so far this season for Los Merengues. We are sure there will be more, supplemented with scorching free-kicks taken from an odd standing position.
Mario Gomez, Bayern Munich
Bayern’s hulking Sturmer is having quite a season in Bavaria and has already bundled in 35 goals so far this term. Gomez has suffered slightly from being absolutely terrible at recent international tournaments and his reputation wasn’t the best.
Not anymore though, as his goal-rich exploits have been winning him a number of accolades over the past couple of seasons. This year though he has walloped in FIVE hat-tricks and, considering his level of movement, they have all probably come within the 18-yard box.
Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Schalke
The toothy Dutchman is another whose reputation took a bit of a beating, but you can’t really hold it against him as his only disappointing seasons were staged in Milan and the asylum that is Real Madrid.
He must get some credit for even coming out of the Marca merry-go-round without being permanently scarred. If he was in any way, then he is covering up for it well as his 38 goals so far this season have contained FIVE hat-tricks. It looks like Germany is staging its own hat-trick race and it going quite a bit further when you consider the defence-light nature of the Bundesliga.
John Guidetti, Feyenoord
There are one or two others who are on THREE at-tricks as the man on loan from Manchester City, but we felt the young Swede deserves a mention due to the fact that his came in the space of just four games.
It means his ration for the Dutch side is now 18 goals in 19 appearances. It makes you wonder why Roberto Mancini has not though to call on him to utilise his particular brand of penalty box bustle in the Citizens title tilt.
Right, we have five contenders for ‘GMF’s Hat-Trick Hero 2011/12’, which is not an actual prize and we definitely won’t be handing out a trophy. Although it will be fun to keep track of the race for the imaginary accolade.
After all this talk GMF feels it necessary to leave you with this little nugget: Mario Gomez now has 11 Bundesliga hat-tricks, but he is trailing the record holder somewhat – that is Gerd Muller, with 32. Yes, 32.


another interesting article, about the higuain-benzema duel:
http://www.aniveldecancha.com.mx/nota/1303/higuain-esta-harto/

unfortunately, it's in spanish
it's from a few months ago
a short summary:
higuain is tired of being poorly considered in real madrid, despite scoring a lot more than benzema
he asked the club to think about selling him, so he should leave the club at the end of the season
the article mentions that even the players prefer higuain to benzema, as benzema only talks to the other "french" lassana diarra
they also say that benzema is paid more than higuain :icon_rolleyes:
so since every thing shows higuain is better, why does benzema play as a titular, while higuain thinks about leaving the club?

the answer is in this sentence:
Y es que Higuaín teme que Mourinho se haya decantado por Benzema tras las presiones de Florentino Pérez. El presidente le fichó como un galáctico y le pidió al técnico que sacase el máximo rendimiento del francés. Quiere a Benzema de titular y, en igualdad de condiciones, el francés siempre estará por delante. Para Florentino es básico que no le echen nunca en cara el sobreprecio que pagó por un delantero que ha mejorado, pero que sigue sin ser tan decisivo como el mejor Higuaín.

my translation:
higuain is affraid that mourinho might have chosen to play with benzema as a titular because of florention perez's lobbying
the club owner, who advertised benzema as a "galactic" (very famous players bought by real madrid to gain popularity), asked the coach to make the most of benzema
he wants benzema to be titular, and, when in similar contition, benzema will always be ahead of higuain
it's very important for florentino perez that nobody can tell him that he paid too much for a striker who improved, but remains less crucial than higuain when he is at his best

and why does florentino perez love benzema so much?
because he is arab, so he is very popular in the arabic-muslim countries, so he helps real madrid to conquer the arab market, like zidane before him
see for example benzema's presentation to the fans when he was bought:

[video=youtube;HB1Em22z1UE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB1Em22z1UE[/video]

they play the arab song "aicha", while benzema didn't know that they would play arabic music, he was surprised (i think benzema might prefer french rap music)
they are obviously playing with his arab image
 

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nzema against apoel:

[video=youtube;5y9F_09NfOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y9F_09NfOw&feature=share[/video]

so much for benzema being superior to higuain in the big matches, especially champions league
 

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Finally the Milan coach Allegri let Maxi Lopez play from the first minute against Fiorentina Saturday. Unfortunately Milan lost, but Maxi played well, earned a penalty kick - a bit generous, it must be said - and hit a post. Robinho was on the bench and replaced Emanuelson (another favorite of Allegri) in the second half. Let's see if this lasts.
 

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every time maxi lopez plays, he does something
it makes me very happy that he finally plays for a big club
too bad for milan that he only played 3 minutes in champions league against barcelona, i think the result would have been different with him playing 90 minutes


an update about the goal scorers:


spain:

1: lionel messi 38 goals white
2: cristiano ronaldo 37 goals white
3: falcao 20 goals mestizo
gonzalo higuain 20 goals white


italy:

1: ibrahimovitch 23 goals white

2: di natale 20 goals white
3: cavani 19 goals mestizo (but has proven european ancestry on his father side)

milito (white) is just 1 goal away from cavani, he scores a lot now
german denis (white) slowed down because of a big injury
the next non-white after cavani is the brazilian hernanes at the 19th position
and the first black or part-black is the brazilian robinho at the 36th position


france:

1: olivier giroud 18 goals white
2: eden hazard 14 goals white
3: nene 13 goals mestizo


at the 4th place, only 1 goal behind the brazilian nene, there are 2 strikers from the same team (lyon): gomis (black) and lisandro (white)
i hope lisandro scores more so the top 3 will be 100% white , and impressive feat since only 20 % of the strikers in french ligue 1 are whites

but it will be hard, because lisandro is forced to play almost like a middlefielder while gomis is suposed to score the goals

un fortunately gameiro (white) is no longer a starter in paris saint germain, hoarau (black) plays instead
he has 11 goals


germany:

1: mario gomez 25 goals white

2: huntelaar 24 goals white
3: lewandowski 19 goals white

the first non-white is the asian kagawa, 9th


premier league:

1: van persie 26 goals
white
2: rooney 22 goals white
3: aguero 17 goals white

for you americans, clint dempsey (white) is 5th with 15 goals

congratulations to those white goal scorers, it's impressive to have an all-white top 3 when you see the racial breakdowns in this league


south american league: (portugal :biggrin:)

1: lima 19 goals mestizo (brazilian)
2: cardozo 18 goals mestizo (paraguayan)
3: james rodriguez 12 goals mestizo (colombian) but he is relatively white, i don't know about his ancestry so i put mestizo

there are only 2 non south americans in the top 10, an african and wolfswinkel the young dutch (white)
i don't call this league the south american league for no reason :grin:


champions league:

1: lionel messi 14 goals (white) <---- incredible!
2: mario gomez 11 goals (white)
3: cristiano ronaldo 8 goals (white)


europa league:

1: huntelaar 10 goals (white)
2: falcao 8 goals (mestizo)
3: matias suarez 7 goals (white)

the basque llorente is 4th with 6 goals, he is the only one who is not out of the europa league yet with falcao amongst the top scorers



2 minor leagues:

holland: bas dost (white) is the top scorer with the impressive total of 25 goals
a lot of european clubs are interested in him, in england especially
he is pretty young

belgium: jeremy perbet (white) is the top scorer with 22 goals (the 2nd has 13 goals!)



 

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[video=youtube_share;BEcOEePgHPM]http://youtu.be/BEcOEePgHPM[/video]

a video i made to say that giroud is better than benzema :grin:
 

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Maxi Lopez again did not play for Milan on Tuesday against Chievo, instead (Milan coach) Allegri's darling Robinho again played (for more on Robinho see the horrid missees thread). He had to be replaced for poor performance by (another Allegri darling) Emanuelson. Milan won 1:0.
Here's a funny moment after the game when a ball-boy refused to take the jersey from Milan's black player Muntari :icon_mrgreen:. Not everybody is impressed by these Black "super athletes":

[video=youtube;1hQYOQhmi14]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hQYOQhmi14[/video]
 

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Porthos - I watched that Chievo v Milan match. Milan were sleepwalking through the 2nd half. Very lethargic performance from a team trying to win the Scudetto. It's as if they don't care. Maybe they don't.
 

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I would by far prefer Juventus to win Serie A this year. Milan is probably now the blackest team in Italy. Were it not for a couple of players that I like (their goalkeeper Abbiati is a self-confessed Fascist - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/27/italy.acmilan - my type of guy, but also Maxi Lopez, Ambrosini, Abbate and a couple of others) - I would actively detest them. I find their coach Allegri and his infatuation with Robinho and Emanuelson atrocious.
The goal Muntari scored against Chievo is not worthy of Serie A where defences are supposed to be impregnable. To let a guy unchallenged for such a long time, let him calmly adjust the ball, look at the goal, take aim without anybody intervening is mind-boggling. It looked like a Bundesliga goal. Chievo deserved at least a point.
This year Juve is overwhelmingly an Italian / European (except Vidal, who is Mesitzo). The team that is playing great football - today I watched them against Lazio, and they shower great determination, Pirlo is one of the best passers in the game and is spectacular to watch (Milan let him go for some reason, although they don't have a real playmaker :huh:), Del Piero - the legend - scored again from a free kick. He's almost 38.

Now that I think about it, traditionally Juve fielded very few Blacks compared with the Milan teams. I don't remember any Black Juventus player of any importance in the recent past and their legends were Sivori, Scirea, Platini, Boniek, Baggio, DelPiero.
Milan however played Gullit, Rijkaard, Weah, Desaily, Seedorf, Robinho, Emanuelson, Boateng just from the top of my head. they also had a lot of great white players, but today are completely africanized. Now they are rumors Milan is in a pole-position to buy Balottelli - why I'm not surprised? Not even Inter looked so bad... Although Inter was known to have a team entirely without Italians for years, at least they mostly chose white Argentinians and Uruguayans.

Forza Juve!
 

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juventus had and still has less blacks because south italians are more racist towards blacks

i would be happy if juventus wins the serie A, and if maxi lopez AC wins it it will also make me happy (but from a racial point of view it would be better if juventus wins)

juventus need to find game-breakers though if they want to do well in champions league, players that can score by themselves against great teams, world class players
 

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messi broke another record today

With his 68th goal in all competitions this season, Lionel Messi has now completed the most prolific season in the history of European football.

In the 64th minute of Barcelona's home match against Malaga, Messi completed a hat trick and broke Gerd Muller's record of 67 goals in a season—which Muller set in the 1972-73 campaign with Bayern Munich.
What a feat for the young Argentinian, widely regarded as the world's best player and one of the greatest footballers of all time.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...39-year-old-record-with-68th-goal-this-season


and the season is not over yet


by the way, is maxi lopez injuried? when was the last time he played?
 

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The season is not over but the championship is as Real Madrid are currently leading 3-0 away to Athletic Bilbao. Ronaldo scored one but missed a penalty in the first half. Ronaldo could still top Messi for goals in La Liga but he's got to stop missing penalties!
 

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I don't know if Sergio Aguero has any non-European roots but I'll put him down as white for now. His goal deep in injury time (which Balotelli helped set up) will be remembered as one of the most dramatic goals in football history. When I saw him run on to the ball in the box I fully expected him to get by the black defender and beat the keeper. I've only watched 8 or 9 Man City matches this year but almost every time I did this guy was the best forward on the pitch. He strikes me as being clutch.*

Of course it's a shame Man City won the title but with my all-time most hated team, Man United featuring Patrice Evra, being the alternative winners it was a no-win situation for me.:frown:

* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clutch
 

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I don't know if Sergio Aguero has any non-European roots but I'll put him down as white for now. His goal deep in injury time (which Balotelli helped set up) will be remembered as one of the most dramatic goals in football history. When I saw him run on to the ball in the box I fully expected him to get by the black defender and beat the keeper. I've only watched 8 or 9 Man City matches this year but almost every time I did this guy was the best forward on the pitch. He strikes me as being clutch.*

Of course it's a shame Man City won the title but with my all-time most hated team, Man United featuring Patrice Evra, being the alternative winners it was a no-win situation for me.:frown:

* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clutch

All Balotelli did was kick the ball out in space in desperation as he was falling.

Tevez kicked Barton and then Barton retaliated with a mild elbow to the jaw of Tevez. Of course, Barton was caught and Tevez wasn't and that change the game with a red card. I really hate some of these red cards . Barton should have just waited and nailed Tevez with a hard tackle later and would have only been given a yellow card. How many times does this stuff go on and isn't even seen?

You can never leave a football match early because a goal can be scored so quickly.

Did you see Mancini on the sidelines when they were down 2-1 yelling.?He was almost out of his mind. Of course, he had all the hand gestures.

I can't stand Evra either. He has to cry to his mommy because someone called him a name and gets Suarez suspended for 8 games. Then he expects Suarez to kiss his ass and shake his hand.

Here's the final goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JI9RcNJhws&feature=related
 
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aguero had an amazing season, especially considering that he just moved to england
and dzeko ( who almost never played toward the end of the season) scored the equilizer
the other manchester city goal was scored by the white argentine zabaleta (of french and basque descent)

QPR was horrible, but they tried to win at all cost, so it was an exciting match (i wasn't planning to watch it, but when i saw that manchester city was losing i tuned in)


mancini is wise, he whitened his team for the last matches
for this match he had 3 south americans
he played with both tevez and aguero as strikers

another player who must be praised is joe hart
he did nothing special in this match but he saved the team in very important matches

so the premier league has now 3 white top scorers dominating the league: van persie, rooney and aguero (who will be considered white by me as long as he doesn't say he has bolivian or other non white ancestry)
 
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Thanks for sharing the link to the eurorivals website, Frederic! White goal scorers are prolific. However, relatively few top strikers are from the same country, in which the football association is based.

It’s nice that Eurorivals also includes photos of the top 50 goal poachers.

There is something funny I noticed:

Brazilian League - the goal scorer who is in 14[SUP]th[/SUP] place looks like a professor and is almost certainly older than 40. I wonder whether that’s the real photo of Coritiba player “Bill”:

http://eurorivals.net/top-scorers/brazil.html

Two other minor corrections:

For the Czech League, they have the wrong picture in the case of Marek Jarolim (they have mistakenly included a photo that actually features Milan Baros in Czech national team jersey).

In the Austrian League, I am not sure whether Jakob Jantscher’s photo is the correct one, as he is blond-haired (maybe he dyed his hair in this instance).

http://eurorivals.net/players/jakob-jantscher:fc-red-bull-salzburg.html

I really like the site, it’s great for comparative purposes and I will continue to peruse it.
 

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actually, i never heard about this website before, porthos gave the link :wink:
there are some mistake though, as you pointed out
the portuguese league is still not updated
and that picture sure isn't a picture of "bill" :laugh:
the real bill is darker and younger

and i checked, this austrian doesn't look like the one they put a picture of
 

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spain:

1: lionel messi 50 goals (!) white

[video=youtube_share;4iooCM_ODIc]http://youtu.be/4iooCM_ODIc[/video]
messi had 73 goals this season (counting the champions league goals and goals in other competitions) beating the european record

2: cristiano ronaldo 46 goals white
3: falcao 24 goals mestizo
then gonzalo higuain 22 goals white



italy:

1: ibrahimovitch 28 goals white

2: milito 24 goals white
3: cavani 23 goals mestizo (but has proven european ancestry on his father side)
tied with di natale 23 goals white

the next non-white is the brazilian hernanes, 25th


france:

1: olivier giroud 21 goals white
2: nene 21 goals mestizo (giroud is officially the ligue 1 top scorer because nene scored (much) more
penalty kicks)
3: eden hazard 20 goals white

lisandro lopez (white) is 4th with 16 goals


germany:


1: huntelaar 29 goals white
2: mario gomez 26 goals white
3: lewandowski 22 goals white

marco reus (white) from the german national team, is 4th, tied with podolsky
pizarro (white peruvian) is also 4th


the first non-white is the asian kagawa, 10th
the first black is choupo moting, 17th



premier league:

1: van persie 30 goals
white
2: rooney 27 goals white
3: aguero 23 goals white

that's impressive


south american league: (portugal :biggrin:)


1: cardozo 20 goals mestizo (paraguayan)
2: lima 20 goals mestizo (brazilian)
3: hulk 16 goals mestizo (brazilian)

van wolfsinkel the young dutch is 4th


champions league:

1: lionel messi 14 goals (white)
2: mario gomez 12 goals (white)
3: cristiano ronaldo 10 goals (white)


europa league:


1: falcao 12 goals (mestizo)
2: huntelaar 10 goals (white)
3: adrian lopez 8 goals (white)

matias suarez (white argentine) and llorente the basque striker who plays for bilbao are both 4th

not bad for a competition which is usually very south american


2 minor leagues:

holland: bas dost (white) is the top scorer with the impressive total of 32 goals
a lot of european clubs are interested in him, in england especially
he is pretty young
luuk de jong (white) is 2nd with 25 goals, tied with an arab


belgium: jeremy perbet (white) is the top scorer with 22 goals (the 2nd has only 13 goals!)


it has been pretty much perfect season in this regard
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the second video about giroud's incredible season:

[video=youtube_share;ZRj_lt7pPoo]http://youtu.be/ZRj_lt7pPoo[/video]

with the part 1: http://rutube.ru/tracks/5694838.html you have all his goals except one that was not showed on TV (21 in french league + 4 in cup + 1 with the french national team) and assists (9 in french league and 2 in cup)
plus a few disallowed goals and footage of him fighting to get aerial balls (one of his strenghts)
 
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just wanted to add that Lewandowski was chosen a player of the year by Bundesliga, in all competitions he scored 30 goals and had 14 assists. Bayern and ManU are on his trail but Borussia has rejected their offers trying to keep him.
 

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just wanted to add that Lewandowski was chosen a player of the year by Bundesliga, in all competitions he scored 30 goals and had 14 assists. Bayern and ManU are on his trail but Borussia has rejected their offers trying to keep him.

a deserved award since his team won the league
in france they gave the award to hazard who is a very talented young white player, but he didn't win the league and scored a lot of penalty kicks
they should have given it to giroud i think

i don't think that lewandowsky will leave borussia dortmund because they will play champions league so there is no reason to leave
also, dortmund has no other striker outside of him now that they sold lucas barrios
 

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i mentionned at the start of the season that pizarro would move to a very big club: he will play for bayern munchen next season
he said at the start of the season that he wanted to play for a bigger club because he wants to make everything possible to help peru to qualify to the 2014 world cup
 

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it's done, giroud is an arsenal player
the premier league might be very interesting next year, with both very over-rated black players to monitor closely, and 2 teams that might look decent, arsenal and liverpool

http://rutube.ru/tracks/5694838.html

http://youtu.be/ZRj_lt7pPoo

i have been credited on some videos about giroud because i have been the one who followed him the most closely:

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(my youtube channel is named maxilopez88)
 
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So next year Arsenal will play with Giroud, Van Persie and Podolski forward?
That's going to be interesting to watch...
 

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So next year Arsenal will play with Giroud, Van Persie and Podolski forward?
That's going to be interesting to watch...

apparently, that's what wenger said
but there's still plenty of time until the next season, and van persie could leave (right now wenger said that van persie will stay, but he's not the one who decides i think)


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like i said before, giroud is hated a lot because he is white and also from a rural area
this season he has been constantly belittled: the media was comparing him with gignac ( who was top scorer of ligue 1 but disappeared the next season)
they were calling him "the new gignac"

now that he signed for arsenal, they call him the new marouane chamack:

http://www.rmcsport.fr/blogs/afterfoot.php?post/2012/06/26/giroud-le-nouveau-chamakh

chamack is a french arab althought he play for morocco internationally
it makes no sense comparing them because chamack never scored more than 13 goals in 1 season, even when he played with talented play makers like gourcuff, in the best french team at the time (bordeaux)
giroud scored 21 goals in ligue 1 with a 2nd division club (montpellier played in 2nd division 2 years ago) and he is the player with most assists of his team, so he had no talented play-maker to help him
 
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