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Colonel_Reb 
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 Posted: 13 November 2009 at 10:04am |
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Congrats to Joe for having another big game! I hope he has the opportunity to break 1,000 yards on the season.
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of the facts and evidence" - John Adams
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White Power
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Posted: 13 November 2009 at 10:09am |
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They have 4 games remaining as Rutgers is bowl eligibile Joe will surely break the 1000 yard mark now.
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Fightingtowin
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Posted: 13 November 2009 at 1:29pm |
Originally posted by Don Wassall
I did hear Craig James saying that Jordan Shipley deserves serious consideration for the Heisman. In fact, I hit the jackpot tonight -- I only turned on the Rutgers game briefly twice, once when they were hyping Shipley, and the other time right when Joe made his 37 yard TD run.  |
Don, I thought I might have heard Shipley's name as I was walking into the room, but thought "Naaaahhh." lol That's great. Looks like there might be a white RB and white WR for the Heisman ceremonies. 
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Deadlift
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Posted: 13 November 2009 at 8:05pm |
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Isn't there a "stereotype" that Whites are "too muscular/too big-boned" to excel at running back or wide receiver?
I bring this up because Martinek has massive calves. Looking at the picture of Ryan Wolfe in his thread, he appears to have a larger build as well.
In Caste System lore, ONLY small-boned, thin blacks can be "real" skill-position players. At CF, we know otherwise. Having big calves or big ankles doesn't mean that someone lacks athleticism. The discrimination against White RBs is utterly insane!
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white is right
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Posted: 13 November 2009 at 8:11pm |
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In the modern NFL yes. If you look up star tailbacks from the 60's to 20's most of the star White backs were small boned(relatively) tailbacks who didn't break 200 pounds. Ie the King and the Galloping Ghost.
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Electric Slide
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Posted: 13 November 2009 at 8:31pm |
Originally posted by Deadlift
Isn't there a "stereotype" that Whites are "too muscular/too big-boned" to excel at running back or wide receiver?
I bring this up because Martinek has massive calves. Looking at the picture of Ryan Wolfe in his thread, he appears to have a larger build as well.
In Caste System lore, ONLY small-boned, thin blacks can be "real" skill-position players. At CF, we know otherwise. Having big calves or big ankles doesn't mean that someone lacks athleticism. The discrimination against White RBs is utterly insane!
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Yes the thing about calves and ankles is ridiculous. Calves are one of the muscles that the looks are simply genetic, and there's not much you can do in increase or shrink the size. Also, it happens to be a muscle that it doesn't hurt to work out every day. If you strengthen your calves it won't really show in size until a really, really long time later.
Also, the other false notion is that all blacks have smaller calves. I've seen blacks with huge calves. Actually, what's funny is a black athlete was trying to tell me about the calf thing, so we compared and ours were actually the same size (mine are medium size). But of course he pointed out a teammate with huge calves, to which I said you can find different size examples anywhere.
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NJfan
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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 2:13pm |
Article on ESPN.com mentions his lack of D1 offers and Track ambitions.
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FootballDad
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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 2:57pm |
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The way that article is written, there is almost no way a typical DWF would be able to connect the dots.
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FootballDad
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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 6:12pm |
I notice that two posters at the ESPN article have subtley brought up the main issue regarding Martinek's recruiting, but no one else is biting! I guess that it's far too complicated for all of those DWF's out there.
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Colonel_Reb
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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 6:17pm |
Originally posted by FootballDad
I notice that two posters at the ESPN article have subtley brought up the main issue regarding Martinek's recruiting, but no one else is biting! I guess that it's far too complicated for all of those DWF's out there. |
That and the fact that the average American male is scared to death of talking honestly about race. God forbid they get called a racist!
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of the facts and evidence" - John Adams
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NJfan
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Posted: 17 December 2009 at 6:20am |
Classic line "Rutgers will trot out that football rarity, a white tailback" link
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NJfan
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Posted: 13 April 2010 at 5:49pm |
Sporting News showing Martinek some love.
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celticdb15
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Posted: 13 April 2010 at 6:04pm |
Thanks for the link NJfan feel free to add in man!! Funny how Vai Taua is getting noticed out there in Nevada but Lippincott has all but dissapeared. He has John Clay as his number 3 back, I agree Clay is good, but he still has a LOT of room to grow. First of all he fumbles a lot,his fumble against Northwestern proved to seal the deal for the Cats to go on and win that game. Funny thing is ESPN doesn't seem to remember any of John's fumbles they have zero listed in the 2009 season. http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=236715
Northwestern kept track of the stat though. It's in the 2009 section of Brian Peters player bio.
Not to mention John was a lean 6'1 220 pounds coming out of high school, ran a 4.5 He has now ballooned up to 247, cmon that much weight in 2-3 years should not be acceptable. So I question his dedication to his body. I doubt he could even sniff a 4.5 at his current weight... Anyways not to sidetrack from Martinek, I'm happy as hell for the kid. It looks like his perseverence has paid off.
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NJfan
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whiteCB
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Posted: 06 August 2010 at 10:26am |
GOOD LUCK JERSEY JOE!!! here's to another 1,000 yard rushing season!! And hopefully over the 1,200 mark!
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whiteathlete33
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Posted: 06 August 2010 at 11:02am |
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I know Joe is listed as the starter in the college football preview but some sources say that he is still competing for the starting job. Hopefully this is not true.
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Riddlewire
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Posted: 06 August 2010 at 1:45pm |
Originally posted by whiteathlete33
I know Joe is listed as the starter in the college football preview but some sources say that he is still competing for the starting job. Hopefully this is not true.
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For white tailbacks the competition never ends. They have to be dominant in every practice, every game, and even win in the training room (must have the best measurables). Any average performance will result in a permanent loss of a starting job. Any known injury will result in a permanent loss of a starting job. Even if they manage to succeed in all the above listed criteria, they still only have a 50% chance to retain their starting job over the next "hot incoming Rivals150 black runningback".
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ToughJ.Riggins
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Posted: 06 August 2010 at 8:19pm |
I think things are improving just a bit though Riddlewire. I saw lots of fans commenting on Scout.com about whether De'Antwan Williams should see a larger role as the scatback or even start late last year. Very few thought Williams deserved to be the starter, but a good deal thought he might earn 1/3 of the carries or so by the end of last year as a backup 3rd down back/ scatback. I saw this as a positive sign because (like it or not) Williams is talented as a scatback- although he's not the all round Terrell Davis/Shaun Alexander type workhorse talented back Martinek is (btw Martinek is a little faster than those guys). I also was happy Schiano stuck with Joe after originally replacing Jersey Joe with Jourdon Brooks for a few games after one bad game by Joe. Brooks had some struggles again and then the job was given back to Joe who worked his tail off to keep impressing coaches! Martinek had a couple off games- late in the year last year, but WAS NOT REPLACED! Schiano might be credited with the trend of making it acceptable to play a white RB with Leonard! It soon carried on to LSU's championship team with Hester. As much as it pained people on this site to see Leonard's role reduced for Rice as a senior, I'd have to say that fans realize just how good Rice is. Most Rutger's fans know Leonard is talented, they just think Rice is better, people aren't saying the same things by favouring De'Antwan Williams over Martinek late last year on the Scout.com message boards! 
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Wake Up Sheeple!
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ToughJ.Riggins
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 12:02pm |
Joe Martinek is practicing again. His hamstring is close to healed. This article clearly states that Joe is the clear favourite to be Rutger's starting tailback- and everything I've read says Schiano has faith in him. De'Antwan Williams was supposed to seize the backup role, but has largely dissappointed along with most of the other backup tailbacks so far in practices:
Jersey Joe Shows he's got Game!
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Wake Up Sheeple!
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whiteathlete33
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 12:10pm |
Great news Tough! Nfldraftscout has Martinek ranked as their 45th runningback for 2012. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012_RBWith a good season he'll shoot up the draft boards and hopefully be a late round pick.
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