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  Quote free-safety Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2006 at 9:56am

Based on Maple leafs comments, I am curious as to how a caste system forbids white participation. Does a caste system exist in Russia, Greece, Italy, Sweden etc. If not then why arent there many world class sprinters from these all white countries ?

 

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  Quote white lightning Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2006 at 1:13am
I'm curious to see that story to.I will say that on the average,more black families push their kids harder because they truely believe that athletics is the key to a better life.They really push these kids hard from a very young age and it has seemed to pay off in the some of the major sports.There is a fine line though between wants to hard and what's not.I would like to see more white families on average supporting their kids equally.Kids need to feel a sense of acheivment and a parents love is the ultimate gift.

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  Quote Don Wassall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2006 at 12:01am

Originally posted by White_Savage

Guys:
Research has already answered this question for us.
A study by blackathlete.net showed that Black children get into formal sports at a rate 7 times that of White children. This effectively cancels the numerical advantage of Whites. When you consider that Blacks are also more likely to concentrate their numbers in a few sports-football, basketball, and track, rather than spreading out in alot of sports like Whites, the implications are pretty obvious.

White Savage, do you have a link for this study?  I'm not sure what is meant by "formal" sports; does that mean organized at a certain level?  Not that I necessarily trust blackathlete.net to do an unbiased study.  My own sense of the matter is that blacks don't get into organized sports at anywhere near the rate of seven times that of whites.

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  Quote sunshine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2006 at 3:01pm
Good points in this thread. The rate of participation and dedication etc. are all important factors that have led to the lopsided racial balance we see in major sports from football, basketball,(I would argue baseball) to track. Other socio factors figure in as well. One obvious one is the way many white families steer away from sports that blacks "dominate" such as football and basketball, especially from high school onward.
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Guys:
Research has already answered this question for us.
A study by blackathlete.net showed that Black children get into formal sports at a rate 7 times that of White children. This effectively cancels the numerical advantage of Whites. When you consider that Blacks are also more likely to concentrate their numbers in a few sports-football, basketball, and track, rather than spreading out in alot of sports like Whites, the implications are pretty obvious.
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  Quote white is right Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2006 at 10:14pm
I will say this for track you can have near world class potential in Canada and you may not get discovered unless you sign up for a track club. Football is the same thing as highschool football has very little scouting and poor coaching, but club teams are emphasized. So someone with ability but not the gumption to search out a club may fall through the cracks.  
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  Quote Maple Leaf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2006 at 9:36pm
I don't know what the stats are for sports participation in my own country, Canada, but the U.S. is probably similiar. Without research, I can only base my observations on empiricle evidence. Without a doubt participation in sports like boxing and track have very poor numbers. However, swimming and soccer are very, very high. In fact programs are difficult to get into they are so full. These are some sports that I know very well and the reasons parents tell me they won't let their children participate:
Boxing: parents simply don't want their kids taking blows to the head.
Football: blows to body and head are a concern, also they feel all pro footballers take drugs to compete and they simply don't want their kids to jeopardize their long term health.
Track: few programs, general lack of interest, and concerns most sprinters take drugs to compete.
Basketball: in schools that have a high black population parents are concerned about negative influence on their kids from blacks.
These examples are the only sports that have a high black participation. So much more can be said but there's always another topic to include them in.
I will say though, I was at a swim meet the other day that had over 300 swimmers (kids under 14) with all of their parents in attendence as well. Extremely high interest and the crowd was 99% white. I don't have to tell you that behavior was excellent. In fact, the police couldn't even find a car that was illegally parked!
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They don't do sports period, white Americans in general have become pussies. Too much wealth has produced physical decay. It's not a coincidence that white revival in boxing is from eastern europeans where the average annual income is less than a welfare reciepents in North America...

I think that's overstating it.  Look at all the whites who play high school football (which is practically a religion in many places), who wrestle, play baseball, basketball, soccer and spend lots of time participating in other sports.  There's no question that the percentage of couch potatoes among whites is distressingly high, but there are still many millions who play sports.  To beat back the Caste System in football, basketball and track though, it's going to take some whites with an indomitable spirt and mental toughness to go along with all-out training and preparation.

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  Quote white is right Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2006 at 5:54pm
They don't do sports period, white Americans in general have become pussies. Too much wealth has produced physical decay. It's not a coincidence that white revival in boxing is from eastern europeans where the average annual income is less than a welfare reciepents in North America...
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  Quote white lightning Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2006 at 5:14pm
A caste system ensures poor participation. You nailed it right on the head.There are more Wariners out there but we very rarely see one.Most of these kids go into other sports.Until whites enjoy watching & running track like the blacks,the domination will continue.Hopefully,kids like Wariner & Rock will only be the tip of the iceburg!
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  Quote Maple Leaf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2006 at 9:11am
This stuff's old news. Wariner has not done what a white man has not already done many times before. Before black runners were "discovered" in the mid twentieth century white men ran and won in all distances against all peoples including guess who, yes, blacks.
"But those times were so slow back then",you say.
I scratch behind my head. "Yeah, but everyone's times were slower back then".
"But blacks weren't given the opportunity before. Now they are and they are unstopable. Look man, they like rule track and ..."
I interupt. "Opportunity? When? At what period?"
"Before the 'mid twentieth century', as you say"
"Well let me put it to you this way," I say. And this is what I said. "The forties were a wash because of La Deuxi`eme Guerre Mondiale (WWII). In the thirties I recall Owens did quite well. The Olympics only re-started in 1896 and for him to win a gold medal some thirty years later it means he must have had some fair training and opportunity long before then. It seems to me whites have always been pretty fair about this. And I'll add this whether you like it or not: sports are like manual labour and blacks are very prevalent in manual jobs so it's only natural they would also turn to sports."
The only thing, if anything, I see extraordinary about Wariner was his age at such a high level of achievement. He obviously found that he liked running at a young age and grew into his sport which is what a champion needs to do anywhere. You can't start at 18. It may also be that he peaked at a young age and may not get that much faster.
Look, it's just running, and that's it. Let's not make much more of it than that. Anyone can run. We all have legs don't we? Speed is a state of mind, not color. The only basic requisite is desire. I don't want to reveal much technique because of raiders but I will say this: you have to imagine the other side of the finish line is pulling you to it- you are not trying to catch it.
I'm not saying everyone is going to be a champion. Obviously the man 5'5" has a shorter stride than a man 6'0" and, if they have the same leg speed, the taller man will out run the shorter once he has hit full speed and those extra 10 cms or so start to add up. But stride length is not exclusive to any race. If you never try you will never win. Poor results stem from poor participation. A caste system ensures poor participation.

   
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